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		<title>By: Keleus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keleus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont like the white Iphones the back doesnt match the front at all, the black ones look more sleek and both sides actually match</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont like the white Iphones the back doesnt match the front at all, the black ones look more sleek and both sides actually match</p>
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		<title>By: dressyourcellnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>dressyourcellnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the guy&#039;s last comment - especially the one that says &quot;thanks&quot; for ruining his day. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the guy&#8217;s last comment &#8211; especially the one that says &#8220;thanks&#8221; for ruining his day. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: 3000ryu</title>
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		<dc:creator>3000ryu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea I don&#039;t know why they did that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea I don&#8217;t know why they did that.</p>
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		<title>By: esnoozertv</title>
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		<dc:creator>esnoozertv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but the iPhone3g can be bought now for under £100 on Pay As You Go. See our channel for info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but the iPhone3g can be bought now for under £100 on Pay As You Go. See our channel for info.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Search on &quot;free css layouts&quot;. You will find loads of layouts you can download to see how they did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Search on &quot;free css layouts&quot;. You will find loads of layouts you can download to see how they did it.</p>
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		<title>By: bjorndgreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjorndgreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought T-Mobile was based in Denmark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought T-Mobile was based in Denmark.</p>
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		<title>By: Howdy^_^</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howdy^_^</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to use Float: Left; instead of positioning. Setting the top: inherit; means it will go to 0 unless previously set. Inherit is another way of saying default.

You should read &quot;Transcending CSS&quot; by Andy Clarke who&#039;s working on the CSS3 spec.

The issue is you&#039;re trying to build a site with CSS the way you&#039;d build it with tables. That defeats the purpose. Learn to do semantic markup. That&#039;s why you should read that book. That will teach you how to build sites from the content out, using meaningful markup to make the layout of your site with the minimal amount of DIVs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to use Float: Left; instead of positioning. Setting the top: inherit; means it will go to 0 unless previously set. Inherit is another way of saying default.</p>
<p>You should read &quot;Transcending CSS&quot; by Andy Clarke who&#039;s working on the CSS3 spec.</p>
<p>The issue is you&#039;re trying to build a site with CSS the way you&#039;d build it with tables. That defeats the purpose. Learn to do semantic markup. That&#039;s why you should read that book. That will teach you how to build sites from the content out, using meaningful markup to make the layout of your site with the minimal amount of DIVs.</p>
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		<title>By: Geojont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geojont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished writing a book on exactly this topic.

HTML / XHTML All in One for Dummies teaches exactly what you&#039;re talking about.

I start from the beginning with solid XHTML strict by hand, teaching solid fundamentals.  Although you really don&#039;t need Dreamweaver any more, there are editors that can help you create great code. I recommend (and include) aptana, a high-end open-source programmer&#039;s editor. Aptana has several features that make it a great editor:
It has code completion (begin typing HTML or CSS code and it gives you a list of legal code values you can pick from)
It also features syntax coloring, which displays different parts of your code in different colors.
It recognizes potential errors on the fly, marking them so you can see problems before you even look in the editor.

After careful coverage of XHTML, I show how to style your pages using the powerful CSS language.  First I describe how to handle colors text, manipulation, borders, and the like through CSS, and then I lead you through CSS-based markup.  Once you understand how CSS works, you&#039;ll see why tables are considered old-fashioned.  You&#039;ll be able to make floating layouts, layered menus, and positioned layouts.  

You&#039;ll learn how to build XHTML / CSS pages that adhere to the strictest standards, and get some tools and tricks for ensuring your pages conform to those standards.

By the time you get through the third mini-book (of eight) you&#039;ll already be quite an accomplished web developer, but I wanted to write a book that would take you beyond the basics.  If you&#039;ve been in the web world for long, you&#039;re no doubt curious about the programming side of things.  

Book four covers the JavaScript language. Even if you&#039;ve never programmed before, you&#039;ll be able to create useful programs embedded in your web pages.  You&#039;ll learn to validate form data, get input from forms, and even animate your pages with JavaScript code.

The real action today happens on the server, so I explain how to get started in the PHP server-side programming language. I give you everything you need to start programming in PHP on the CD-ROM that comes with the book.  You&#039;ll learn how to respond to user input, save files on the server, and connect to databases.

Data is of course the driving force on the Internet today, so book six describes the popular and powerful MySQL relational database manager. (Included with the CD-ROM, of course) I take you through the SQL language and show how to build basic databases, then move beyond the basics to data normalization, the skill you use to model complex data relationships.

The hottest area on the Internet right now is AJAX, a technology that brings together client-side and server-side programming.  I include a mini-book on AJAX including how to build an AJAX connection by hand as well as using the (you guessed it; included) jQuery library to simplify your AJAX programming and get some stunning interactivity and special effects for your page.

The last mini-book covers practical aspects of getting your site running:  How to install a server, how to choose an external host, how to plan large projects, how to build content-management systems, and much more.

The book is available in most bookstores, and online at Amazon and other outlets.  It&#039;s actually not too expensive, considering it&#039;s over 900 pages of goodies.

It&#039;s also written in the relaxed Dummies style.  I&#039;m not trying to impress anybody with how smart I am in this book. I just want to show you some really fun stuff I&#039;ve learned over the years.  Most have found the style to be engaging and informative.

You&#039;re welcome to look over the web page for the book, which has all the example code from the book, at
http://www.aharrisbooks.net/xfd

Let me know if you need any help (my email address is included in the book)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished writing a book on exactly this topic.</p>
<p>HTML / XHTML All in One for Dummies teaches exactly what you&#039;re talking about.</p>
<p>I start from the beginning with solid XHTML strict by hand, teaching solid fundamentals.  Although you really don&#039;t need Dreamweaver any more, there are editors that can help you create great code. I recommend (and include) aptana, a high-end open-source programmer&#039;s editor. Aptana has several features that make it a great editor:<br />
It has code completion (begin typing HTML or CSS code and it gives you a list of legal code values you can pick from)<br />
It also features syntax coloring, which displays different parts of your code in different colors.<br />
It recognizes potential errors on the fly, marking them so you can see problems before you even look in the editor.</p>
<p>After careful coverage of XHTML, I show how to style your pages using the powerful CSS language.  First I describe how to handle colors text, manipulation, borders, and the like through CSS, and then I lead you through CSS-based markup.  Once you understand how CSS works, you&#039;ll see why tables are considered old-fashioned.  You&#039;ll be able to make floating layouts, layered menus, and positioned layouts.  </p>
<p>You&#039;ll learn how to build XHTML / CSS pages that adhere to the strictest standards, and get some tools and tricks for ensuring your pages conform to those standards.</p>
<p>By the time you get through the third mini-book (of eight) you&#039;ll already be quite an accomplished web developer, but I wanted to write a book that would take you beyond the basics.  If you&#039;ve been in the web world for long, you&#039;re no doubt curious about the programming side of things.  </p>
<p>Book four covers the JavaScript language. Even if you&#039;ve never programmed before, you&#039;ll be able to create useful programs embedded in your web pages.  You&#039;ll learn to validate form data, get input from forms, and even animate your pages with JavaScript code.</p>
<p>The real action today happens on the server, so I explain how to get started in the PHP server-side programming language. I give you everything you need to start programming in PHP on the CD-ROM that comes with the book.  You&#039;ll learn how to respond to user input, save files on the server, and connect to databases.</p>
<p>Data is of course the driving force on the Internet today, so book six describes the popular and powerful MySQL relational database manager. (Included with the CD-ROM, of course) I take you through the SQL language and show how to build basic databases, then move beyond the basics to data normalization, the skill you use to model complex data relationships.</p>
<p>The hottest area on the Internet right now is AJAX, a technology that brings together client-side and server-side programming.  I include a mini-book on AJAX including how to build an AJAX connection by hand as well as using the (you guessed it; included) jQuery library to simplify your AJAX programming and get some stunning interactivity and special effects for your page.</p>
<p>The last mini-book covers practical aspects of getting your site running:  How to install a server, how to choose an external host, how to plan large projects, how to build content-management systems, and much more.</p>
<p>The book is available in most bookstores, and online at Amazon and other outlets.  It&#039;s actually not too expensive, considering it&#039;s over 900 pages of goodies.</p>
<p>It&#039;s also written in the relaxed Dummies style.  I&#039;m not trying to impress anybody with how smart I am in this book. I just want to show you some really fun stuff I&#039;ve learned over the years.  Most have found the style to be engaging and informative.</p>
<p>You&#039;re welcome to look over the web page for the book, which has all the example code from the book, at<br />
<a href="http://www.aharrisbooks.net/xfd" rel="nofollow">http://www.aharrisbooks.net/xfd</a></p>
<p>Let me know if you need any help (my email address is included in the book)</p>
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		<title>By: skadanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>skadanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I constantly hear that tables are the spawn of satan, I prefer to use them for layouts. My biggest reason? Partly out of familiarity, but also partly for control (I have seen a bit more weirdness in CSS than I&#039;m comfortable with), partly because I tend to have a lot of small pieces that have to fit together just so, and it&#039;s just easier. 

However, I use a combination of CSS and html since CSS is of course, pretty darn great (I love external style sheets!). But I do fall back onto tables for layout. (I know this opens me up to many css purists having fits but oh well) One thing though, if it&#039;s going to be a matter of lots of nested tables, I try to rethink my design to avoid too much nesting.

One of these days I&#039;ll learn more advanced CSS and find out how the same things can be accomplished- right now my issue might just be a matter of not being comfortable enough in css yet.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I constantly hear that tables are the spawn of satan, I prefer to use them for layouts. My biggest reason? Partly out of familiarity, but also partly for control (I have seen a bit more weirdness in CSS than I&#039;m comfortable with), partly because I tend to have a lot of small pieces that have to fit together just so, and it&#039;s just easier. </p>
<p>However, I use a combination of CSS and html since CSS is of course, pretty darn great (I love external style sheets!). But I do fall back onto tables for layout. (I know this opens me up to many css purists having fits but oh well) One thing though, if it&#039;s going to be a matter of lots of nested tables, I try to rethink my design to avoid too much nesting.</p>
<p>One of these days I&#039;ll learn more advanced CSS and find out how the same things can be accomplished- right now my issue might just be a matter of not being comfortable enough in css yet.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.webville-usa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Henry J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leave the code for the sliced image exactly how it is!  If it isn&#039;t broken don&#039;t fix it.  Just put the code for the sliced image inside a div.  You will not get any benefit from converting the generated code into a div.

&lt;div id=&quot;navigation&quot;&gt;
generated code here
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leave the code for the sliced image exactly how it is!  If it isn&#039;t broken don&#039;t fix it.  Just put the code for the sliced image inside a div.  You will not get any benefit from converting the generated code into a div.</p>
<p>&lt;div id=&quot;navigation&quot;&gt;<br />
generated code here<br />
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